CBC Interviews InDro Founder/CEO Philip Reece on the new Federal budget

CBC Interviews InDro Founder/CEO Philip Reece on the new Federal budget

By Scott Simmie

 

Canada’s new budget was unveiled Monday, November 4.

Delivered by Finance Minister François-Philippe Champagne, there was a lot of focus on technology and defence – both for global competitiveness and to reflect a changing geopolitical world. CBC carried extensive live coverage of the event, which included an interview on the program The House with InDro Founder and CEO Philip Reece on a panel.

The headline for the tech sector? A massive investment in defence spending, which includes dual-purpose technologies, meaning they can be utilised both for defence and industrial/civilian purposes. And the money? It’s big, including $81.8B over five years to rebuild, rearm, and invest in the Canadian Armed Forces.

Here’s a breakdown:

  • $17.9 billion over five years to expand Canada’s military capabilities including investments in additional logistics utility, light utility, and armoured vehicles, counter-drone and DRONE long-range capabilities, and domestic production, among other investments.
  • $6.6 billion to support the Defence Industrial Strategy
  • $6.2 billion over five years to expand Canada’s defence partnerships, including military assistance to Ukraine.

The Defence Industrial Strategy is new – and Canada’s first-ever such strategy. Details will be released in the coming months. But during the recent GCXpo in Ottawa, Defence Minister David McGuinty explained that it will lean heavily on Canada’s technology innovators.

“This is what I do know, and for sure: I know that at the heart of the strategy is you. The innovators, the investors, the risk-takers, the entrepreneurs, and the startups. You’re going to help us develop the dual-use technologies that are going to shape the future of defence and security,” he said.

Below: Dual-purpose technologies, such as our Sentinal inspection robot, could play a significant role in Canada’s Defence Industrial Strategy.

Industrial Inspection Robots

CANADA STRONG

 

It was clear from Finance Minister François-Philippe Champagne’s opening remarks that this would be a very different kind of budget.

“The world is undergoing a series of fundamental shifts at a speed, scale, and scope not seen since the fall of the Berlin Wall,” he said.

“The rules-based international order and the trading system that powered Canada’s prosperity for decades are being reshaped – threatening our sovereignty, our prosperity, and our values….Budget 2025 represents the largest defence investment in decades.”

And perhaps most revelant for this sector?

“With our new Defence Investment Agency and Defence Industrial Strategy, we will build up Canada’s defence industry – strengthening Canadian businesses and supporting Canadian workers…We will further build our security and defence capabilities, right here at home – creating new jobs for our engineers, technicians and scientists in sectors such as aerospace, shipbuilding, cybersecurity, and AI.”

In many ways, the budget signified that Canada is at a critical turning point. And while it wasn’t all focused on defence and innovation, there was a striking emphasis on these areas. And that means challenges – and opportunities – right across the entire technology sector.

This is about more than one company; it’s about building a Canadian defence ecosystem,” says Reece. 

 

INNOVATION IN A CHANGING WORLD

 

The world is changing in unprecedented ways. The stability of geopolitics we’ve traditionally enjoyed is now much more uncertain. Significant conflicts, using newer technologies, are in the news every day. So it was no surprise the Canada Strong budget emphasized this country needs to advance its capabilities.

Following the budget, CBC’s The House interviewed a panel that included InDro Robotics Founder/CEO Philip Reece for his reaction from the technology sector. He started by touching on the budget’s potential to help grow SMEs, which are really the backbone of bringing new technologies to the fore.

“This budget is a strong start for that,” he said. “Now…we need the Canadian government to follow through and allow innovators like InDro – and the many others that are out there – to really compete and become those global companies that we deserve to be.”

Part of that plan will be contained in the forthcoming Defence Industrial Strategy, which will be released in the months to come. As previously hinted by Canada’s Minister of Defence, this strategy will rely heavily on technology entrepreneurs ranging from startups and SMEs through to major corporations. 

InDro Robotics invents and manufacture technologies that have already assisted the Department of Defence and have carried out work directly for the Ministry. (Most recently, InDro and partner CHAAC Technologies carried out a demonstration for the DoD of an AI land mine detection project that fuses drones, ground robots, and a neural network.)

Devices like our dual-purpose Sentinel inspection robot can be put to work in the field for reconnaissance, and our InDro Cortex greatly enhances the capabilities of a wide range of existing devices – including military vehicles and drones. We also have extensive expertise in customised drone and Counter-UAS technologies.

“It’s the same kind of technology now that can be rapidly swapped over to defence,” Reece told The House. “And we have seen that sort of build over the last couple of years, but it needs to build faster. 

“InDro Robotics is ready to deliver on Canada’s defence vision. We have the tech, the talent, and the ambition, now we need a clear path from government that allows us to grow and meet the moment,” says Reece.

Below: Philip’s interview on CBC’s The House, followed by an image of our Cortex – a dual-purpose InDro innovation that can be used for defence, industrial and civilian purposes

InDro Cortex ICRA 2025

INDRO’S TAKE

 

It is indeed a changing world. And we’re pleased (and relieved) to see the Government of Canada recognise the important role that technological innovation will play in our future sovereignty and security. InDro Robotics, and many other tech companies in this country, are ready to answer this call.

“The Canada Strong budget marks a pivotal moment for Canada’s defence and economic resilience,” says InDro Robotics Founder/CEO Philip Reece.

“InDro Robotics welcomes the increased investment and urges the government to now deliver a clear strategy to help Canadian businesses grow into true global leaders, capable of supplying the men and women of the Canadian Armed Forces with the tools and equipment they need and supporting Canada’s trade diversification goals. It is indeed a challenge, and we are up for it.”

We look forward to the forthcoming details of Canada’s Defence Industrial Strategy, and will update you at that time.

GCXpo 2025: Another successful showcase of cutting-edge technology

GCXpo 2025: Another successful showcase of cutting-edge technology

By Scott Simmie

 

GCXpo 2025 is a wrap.

Canada’s premiere next-gen tech showcase featured exhibits from more than 70 cutting-edge companies, multiple panels and fireside chats, some 2,000 registered attendees – and even a keynote speech from the Federal Minister of National Defence.

Oh. And there were a lot of wasps. But they were a minor inconvenience on a day where the focus was on “solutions that our planet needs now more than ever,” said Invest Ottawa President and CEO Sonya Shorey during brief opening remarks. Those solutions ranged from made-in-Canada robotic arms through to robotic agriculture equipment and even new long-range and AI-enhanced drones capable of all manner of data acquisition.

The event, as always, took place over the sprawling grounds of Area X.O (pronounced “X dot oh” in case you ever wondered), a private 750 hectare (1850 acres) complex that serves as a key hub for leading R&D and technology companies in the nation’s capital. The gated facility includes 16 kilometres (10 mi) of roads and test tracks for testing autonomous vehicles, along with its Drone and Advanced Robot Training and Testing facility (DARTT) – built to meet the demanding standards of the National Institute of Science and Technology (NIST).

It’s the perfect location (and had, thankfully, perfect weather) for such an ambitious event. Organised by Invest Ottawa, multiple federal departments, funding agencies and companies (including InDro) sponsored the event.

“It’s an incredible constellation of partners – we do nothing in isolation,” said Shorey.

This year’s GCXpo was not only the biggest yet, but it also noted a shift. There was a greater presence of dual-purpose devices that could be used for defence purposes, along with suggestions we’re in a rapidly changing geopolitical world where it’s in Canada’s best interests to be pushing the tech envelope. Chris Pogue, President of Defence and Space at Calian Advanced Technologies, suggested during the opening ceremony we are at a highly significant point in history:

“(It’s) a moment when defence, Canadian sovereignty, and the ability to build Canadian national capacity is more important than it’s ever been since the Second World War.”

Below: Head of R&D Sales Luke Corbeth demonstrates a humanoid InDro has extensively modified for work in hazardous environments. Image two: Detail of the InDro “backpack” that vastly enhances the robot’s capabilities

 

InDro GCXpo

COOL STUFF

 

There’s always new and interesting things to see while walking the site – plus great opportunities to learn at the many panels (which took place in three separate zones). But a few things caught our eye.

One of them is a new AI drone company called Pelican Autonomy. The company has just recently emerged from “stealth” mode. It’s parent company Lemay.AI, which serves sectors ranging from pharmaceuticals and AgriTech through to aerospace and defence. Pelican Autonomy produces drones of varying sizes, ranges and payload capacities depending on use-case. Specialising in object detection and GPS-denied navigation, the company has been working behind-the-scenes at a rapid pace.

“We decided to build our own UAVs back at CANSEC 2024. We basically went from idea to flyable prototypes since then,” explains Project Lead Vlade Shestakov. “Now that we’ve made a number of successful prototypes, we’ve decided to make ourself known – and because we’re looking for funding we could potentially get some partners here.”

Its large drone (a fixed-wing, dual-engine tail-sitter) can carry a 25kg payload and has an estimated range of 400-500 km.

“It can be a full range of custom solutions – pipeline detection, collaborative mapping, disaster relief – and many others,” he says.

Ottawa-based firm A.I.rShare (“AirShare) was showing its low-cost counter-drone solutions – which are look like tiny missiles

“We provide low-cost, low-collateral counter drone solutions,” explained Missile and Fire Control Designer Luke Skinner. And with developments like we’ve seen in the Ukraine-Russia conflict, there’s clearly a need for C-UAS solutions.

“Lots of people are now buying cheap drones and attaching weapons to them – bombs, mortars, things like that. Right now the missiles being designed for this cost way more than the drones, orders of magnitude greater. Our idea is to bring the cost of the missile down to the cost of the drone. We do that through 3D printing and off-the-shelf components.”

The missiles use hobby rocket motors and are launched via a radar-guided turret. AirShare’s software determines where and when to fire (including how many missiles) for an intercept.

“The missiles deploy a large cloud of lift-disrupting countermeasures that get stuck in the propellors or air intake. Lots of people are doing things like lasers, jamming, but with new fibre optic controlled drone those don’t work so well.”

Below: Indro’s Training and Regulatory Expert, Kate Klassen, on an industry panel around certification, compliance and global standards

THE BIGGER MESSAGE

 

As flagged during opening remarks, we are in a changing world – one where AI and other technologies will play an increasingly important role during uncertain geopolitical times. A standing room-only keynote featured Federal Minister of National Defence, David McGuinty.

“Canada is going to have to be ready…not just to respond, but to lead,” said the Minister. As part of that, he said, the country is working on its first-ever Defence Industrial Strategy – and will be committing vastly more money in this area. As part of meeting Canada’s NATO commitment, he said, the country will be devoting five per cent of its GDP by 2035.

“This is a $9.2 billion investment which will strengthen our forces…enhance our infrastructure and boost our operational readiness….Every defence dollar spent is intended to reinforce Canada’s sovereignty, advance our national security, and fuel home-grown innovation,” he said.

He then expanded on the increasingly significant role Canadian technology companies will play.

“This is what I do know, and for sure: I know that at the heart of the strategy is you. The innovators, the investors, the risk-takers, the entrepreneurs, and the startups. You’re going to help us develop the dual-use technologies that are going to shape the future of defence and security,” he said.

A similar call came earlier in the day from Christine Hanson, Regional Director for North America at NATO’s DIANA program, which issues technology challenges on behalf of NATO partners and funds selected participants. The program was established in 2021 to help NATO maintain its technological edge.

“NATO Nations are really facing unprecedented challenges,” she said, emphasising how important it is “That these technologies are making us more secure and more safe” – adding DIANA is currently engaged in “important conversations around procurement and the speed of acquisition.”

Below: Canada’s National Minister of Defence, David McGuinty 

David McGuinty

INDRO’S TAKE

 

GCXpo is always a big event for us – and for the industry-at-large. This year was no exception. But there was definitely an emphasis on the importance Canada (and NATO) is now placing on developing new and innovative dual-use technologies – meaning they can be used both for defence/sovereignty as well as having other real-world applications.

“It is indeed a changing world, and technology will play an unprecedented role as we move forward,” says InDro Founder and CEO Philip Reece. “InDro already has some dual-use projects underway that we believe will be of benefit, while also standing true with InDro’s long-standing principles of positive use-case scenarios. We’d also like to thank Invest Ottawa and the many organisers of this year’s event – it truly is Canada’s premiere showcase of its kind.”

We look forward to GCXpo 2026.

Mark September 24: GCXpo returns to Ottawa’s Area X.O

Mark September 24: GCXpo returns to Ottawa’s Area X.O

By Scott Simmie

 

If you’re in the Ottawa area September 24 – or can be – mark that date on your calendar. It’s the fourth annual GCXpo, Canada’s premiere showcase of next-gen technology and Smart Mobility. It’s an amazing event, and it’s free.

“Last year, we grew to the point where we had over 1600 registrants that attended the event on the demonstration day. And this year, for the overall showcase, we’re hoping that it grows beyond that,” explains Patrick Kenny, Senior Director, Stakeholder Experience and Strategic Engagement with Invest Ottawa.

And what do those attendees get to see? Well, the latest and greatest that Canadian technology companies have to offer – with live demonstrations of robots, drones, Smart Mobility technologies (including in the fields of agriculture and defence), plus a whole lot more. Close to 75 companies will be displaying or demonstrating at this year’s event, set up on the sprawling 750 hectare (850 acre) private, gated facility known as Area X.O (Area X ‘dot’ Oh) that’s home to a concentration of leading high-technology companies. InDro Robotics has its R&D headquarters there.

Area X.O, says Kenny, truly represents “industry, government, our private sector and our post-secondary institutions all coming together to create this enormous opportunity for companies to test and validate their technology as they work towards public adoption and, ideally, commercialisation.”

Below: A scene from last year’s GCXpo event: And yes, that vehicle is driving autonomously

GCXpo

CROSS-POLLINATION

 

Patrick Kenny uses that word a lot – both in describing Area X.O and the GCXpo event itself.

Area X.O is frequently visited by government departments and agencies that play a role in funding some of the technology developments. There’s collaboration between technology companies on site, resulting in new products and even patents. And there’s all that space for developing and hardening new technologies, including roads set aside for autonomous vehicles, as well as the Drone and Advanced Robotics Training and Testing site (DARTT), where robots are put through demanding challenges that meet the rigorous criteria of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST).

But when it comes to GCXpo, there’s much more than that.

Federal funding agencies and regulators are there, happy to talk about their latest programs and opportunities. Post-secondary institutions are there, happy to discuss co-op programs or meet with prospective students. Investors come as well, looking for that next great product or use-case. Plus, hundreds of people with a general interest in technology attend simply to get a glimpse of the future.

 

AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN

 

But GCXpo (and “GC” stands for Government of Canada) is also an opportunity to hear from the experts via roundtable discussions (including questions from attendees). Last year, there was a large main stage where all of these events took place. This year, says Kenny, they’re taking a different approach in order to offer an even greater quantity of more specialised content.

“We actually made the decision this year to not go with the mainstage,” he explains. “We’re going to have three satellite stages around the site that are going to provide a little bit more high touch programming for those that are interested.”

They are:

  • Communitech EY Zone – Powered by Innovation & Defence
  • Ottawa Innovation Farm Zone powered by AgExpert – Cultivating the Future of Agriculture 
  • Smart City Zone – Building Tomorrow’s Urban Intelligence

You’ll find much more about each of these satellite stages on this page.

In addition to roundtables and technical updates, audience members will have an opportunity to ask the many experts, regulators and funders onstage questions.

Originally known as TCXpo (where the TC stood for Transport Canada), the event has evolved and grown every single year. Kenny is the person in charge of it all – but he’s (obviously) not doing it alone.

“By the time the event takes place, we’ve really had over 50 individuals that have been part of the organising and the development of the event itself,” he says. And that doesn’t include the many other participants, including the companies themselves, post-secondary agencies, and many more.

Below: Patrick Kenny goes into greater detail about the history of Area X.O and what to expect at this year’s GCXpo in this edition of our Sound Byte micro-podcast:

INDRO’S TAKE

 

We always look forward to this event – and not just because it’s an opportunity to showcase our own innovations. It’s an opportunity to meet others in this space, have discussions with regulators, funders, potential clients, etc. Most importantly, it’s an opportunity for everyone who attends (including us!) to see the great strides being made in the Canadian technology sector – everything from innovations in CleanTech through to some of the most advanced autonomous robotics around.

“Invest Ottawa and the Government of Canada deserve great credit for this technology showcase,” says InDro Robotics Founder and CEO Philip Reece. “This is truly the premiere annual Canadian technology event. An incredible amount of work goes into making it happen – and for those who participate, GCXpo can produce incredible results.”

Tickets to attend are free, but you must register in advance. Companies still wishing to exhibit can also reach out for more information here.

InDro partners with Montreal’s Chaac on landmine detection project

InDro partners with Montreal’s Chaac on landmine detection project

By Scott Simmie

 

On a recent day, small green pieces of plastic were scattered randomly across a road at Ottawa’s Area X.O.

They looked harmless. To a child, they might even look like a toy. But these are replicas of a Russian-made landmine known as the PFM-1. They are designed to maim, and will easily blow off a foot or hand if disturbed.

That’s what happened to a Ukrainian boy named Yaroslav in October of 2023. This UNICEF article outlines his injury – which took off the lower part of his right leg. Some children have been killed by these devices, which contain 37g (1.3 oz) of VS-6D or VS-60D liquid explosive.

The mines are banned by a 1997 agreement known as the Ottawa Convention or the Ottawa Treaty. But Russia, the United States and China did not sign the treaty. Ukraine ratified the convention in 2005, but in late June of 2025 issued a decree to withdraw from the agreement, stating that because Russia was deploying mines in the current conflict it had an unfair advantage.

Despite initially signing the agreement, in 2021 it was estimated Ukraine had a stockpile of 3.3M of the devices. Untold numbers of PFM-1s are scattered in the Ukrainian and Russian countryside, dispersed by planes or mortar. Their design allows them to spiral to the ground much like a maple seed.

“After years of war, Ukraine is now one of the most mine-contaminated countries in the world,” states the UNICEF article. “The ongoing fighting has left nearly a third of the country contaminated with landmines and other explosive ordnance, threatening the daily lives of children and families.”

And that, ultimately, is why these harmless replica mines – which look identical to the real thing – have been scattered at Area X.O. They’ve been placed to see if they can be identified and mapped autonomously for the purpose of destruction.

“There’s been a concerted effort by many to figure out a way to remove these from any former battlefield. So that’s why we’re involved with this project,” explains Maxime Phaneuf, Head of R&D with CHAAC technologies.

“We figured this would be a good use-case to try and do feature detection and to train a neural network to find them.”

Above: Chaac’s Maxime Phaneuf (R), with InDro Technologist Tirth Gajera, overseeing a demo. Below: One of the 3D-printed replica PFM-1s used in the project

 
Chaac Mine detection demo Area X.O PFM-1

THE PROJECT

 

The genesis for this project came from a request for proposals from Innovative Solutions Canada. The agency was looking for companies that could leverage technology for field detection – identifying objects of interest automatically. A Montreal-based company specialising in data, Chaac Technologies, was selected.

With a successful proposal, along with subsequent discussions with the Testing Department from the Department of National Defence, it was determined that a specific application – identifying PFM-1 mines – would be useful. And then Chaac got to work.

The goal was to create software, a neural network with embedded machine vision, that could identify these small devices on the ground automatically and with a high detection rate. Chaac got to work on the programming, but needed a partner with drone and ground robot expertise. The drone would be used to capture aerial photos.

The Chaac software, which had been trained to identify PFM-1s by learning what they looked like in various positions on the ground, would automatically ingest those photographs and stitch them together into a single photogrammetric image. The software would then identify and mark each of those landmines on an orthomosaic – an image that’s geometrically corrected and georeferenced. The result is a map that highlights the location of each landmine, along with a score indicating how confident the neural network is that each feature is indeed a PFM-1. That data is then transferred to an InDro ground robot, which then autonomously navigates to each of the landmines.

“From drone to final map, it’s a fully automated workflow,” says Phaneuf. “That’s our innovation.”

Chaac has named the software SHIELDS – Secured Hazard Identification and Environmental Landmark Discovery System.

“We have a consistent detection rate of between 80 and 90 per cent,” explains Phaneuf. And while landmines are the focus, the software could be applied to any feature detection. “This particular system, we can use to discover any landmark as long as we train the neural network accordingly.”

Below: An InDro-modified drone autonomously captures data from above, sending it directly to Chaac’s neural network software for object identification and precision mapping. Our Sentinel inspection robot then confirms the data by autonomously driving to each detected PFM-1.

Chaac Mine detection demo Area X.O Drone
Chaac Mine detection demo Area X.O Sentinel

THE INDRO CONNECTION

 

The necessity for a drone and UGV (Uncrewed Ground Vehicle) is what brought Chaac to get in touch with InDro.

“One of the requirements of this project was to have Canadian-owned and operated hardware, not like DJI drones from China. And so we partnered with Indro,” says Phaneuf.

InDro built two Open-Source RTK drones operating with ROS2 (Robot Operating System), which will be delivered to the Department of National Defence as part of the contract. Our third-generation Sentinel UGV, also with RTK, is used as the ground robot. In a real-world deployment, the UGV could be used to detonate the mines, either by driving over them with a hardened shell, or with some other attachment that could trigger the devices.

And the next step for Chaac? Since the company has shown it can detect very small objects, Phaneuf anticipates DND might ask for detection of something else – say, vehicles for example. Chaac hopes its PFM-1 SHIELDS detection system will make it into the real world.

“I would be very happy if we can save some lives with this project and deploy it in in the Ukraine, or maybe after the war in Russia,” says Phaneuf. “We have hopes that this project will bear fruit and can be deployed in an actual combat or post-battlefield situation.”

We share that view.

Below: Chaac CEO Guillaume Nepveu explains the project during a recent episode of our Sound Byte micro-podcast

INDRO’S TAKE

 

We are pleased to have been brought in as a partner by Chaac on this project. As an R&D company specialising in UGVs and UAVs, it was a perfect fit. We also applaud the use-case, and hope Chaac’s SHIELDS system can one day be used to detect and destroy PFM-1s or other surface landmines.

“Landmines, sadly, continue to pose a threat to soldiers and civilians in many parts of the world,” says InDro Founder and CEO Philip Reece. “There’s no question technology can be, and has been, used to great effect to neutralise this threat. Chaac’s machine vision/neural network approach is a perfect example of combining cutting-edge software and hardware together with a single and positive goal. We look forward to seeing the next steps.”

We’ll keep you updated.

Research at U of Alberta focuses on robotics for medical applications

Research at U of Alberta focuses on robotics for medical applications

By Scott Simmie

 

You’ve probably heard of the “Three Ds” by now: Robots are perfect for tasks that are Dirty, Dull and Dangerous. In fact, we recently took a pretty comprehensive look at why inspection robots can tick all of these boxes – while saving companies from unplanned downtime.

Generally, that maxim holds true. But a recent conversation with two researchers from the University of Alberta got us thinking that some innovative robotics applications don’t truly fit this description. Specifically, certain medical or healthcare use-cases.

The people we spoke to carry out their research under the umbrella of a body that intersects the robotics and healthcare sectors. It’s called the Telerobotic and Biorobotic Systems Group in the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department of the U of A. It’s under the direction of Prof. Mahdi Tavakoli, who is kind of a big name in this sector. Within that group, there are three separate labs:

  • CREATE Lab (Collaborative, Rehabilitation, Assistive robotics research
  • HANDS Lab (Haptics and Surgery research
  • SIMULAT-OR Lab (A simulated operating room featuring a da Vinci Surgical System)

Broadly, the research can be thought of as belonging to one of two realms: Rehabilitation/assistive and surgical. But what does that actually mean? And how has a robot from InDro been modified to become a smart device that can assist people with certain disabilities?

Let’s dive in.

Below: Could a robotic platform like the Ranger Mini be put to use helping someone with mobility issues? We’ll find out…

Ranger Mini 3.0

HELPING PEOPLE (AND EVEN SURGEONS)

 

We spoke with researchers Sadra Zargarzadeh and Mahdi Chalaki. Sadra is a Master’s student in Electrical and Computer Engineering and previously studied Mechanical Engineering at Iran’s Sharif University of Technology. Mahdi is also a Master’s student in the same department, and studied Mechanical Engineering at the University of Tehran.

Sadra’s research has focused on healthcare robotics with an emphasis on autonomous systems leveraging Large Language Model AI.

“I’ve always had a passion for helping people that have disabilities,” he explains. “And in the rehab sector we often deal with patients that have some sort of fine motor skill issue or challenge in executing tasks the way they’d like to. Robotics has the potential to mitigate some of these issues and essentially be a means to remove some of the barriers patients are dealing with – so I think there’s a very big potential for engineering and robotics to increase the quality of life for these people.”

That’s not dirty, dull or dangerous. But it is a very worthwhile use-case.

 

SMART WALKER

 

People with mobility and/or balance issues often require the help of walkers. Some of these devices are completely manual, and some have their own form of locomotion that keeps pace with the user’s desired speed. The direction of these is generally controlled with two hands on some form of steering device. Usually, equal pressure from each hand and arm are required in order to go in a straight line and by pushing harder on one side or another steering is achieved.

But what about someone who has had a stroke that has left them with partial paralysis on one side? They might well not be able to compensate, meaning despite their intent to carry out a straight path forward the device would turn. That’s where Mahdi’s research comes in.

“Robotic walkers or Smart Walkers have been studied for more than 20 years,” he says. “But in almost all of them, their controllers assume you have the same amount of force in both of your hands. And people with strokes often don’t have the same strength in one side of their body as they have on the other side.”

So how can robotics compensate for that? Well, using an AgileX Ranger Mini with InDro Commander from InDro Robotics as the base, Mahdi and others got to work. They built a steering structure and integrated a force sensor, depth perception camera, and some clever algorithms. That camera zones in on the user’s shoulders and translates movement into user intent.

“We know, for example, if you are just trying to use your right hand to turn left, the shoulder angle increases. If you’re trying to turn right, the shoulder angle on the right arm decreases.”

By interpreting those shoulder movements in conjunction with the force being applied by each hand, this Smart Walker translates that data into desired steering action. As a result, the user doesn’t have to push so hard with that compromised side and it also reduces cognitive load. The wrist torque required by the user drops by up to 80 per cent.

Of course, there’s much more to this device than we’ve outlined here. Enough, in fact, that a scientific paper on it can be found here. You can also check out the video below:

 

ROBOTS IN THE O-R

 

While the Smart Walker is a great example of robotics being put to use on the assistive and rehabilitation side of things, let’s not forget that the Telerobotic and Biosystems Research Group also carries out work on the surgical side. Sadra explains that robotic devices – particularly in conjunction with AI – could prove of great benefit assisting a surgeon.

“My research centres around the use of Generative AI. With the growth of Large Language Models (LLM) such as ChatGPT, we want to see how these AI tools can translate into the physical world in robots. A big section of my projects have focused on Generative AI for surgical autonomy.”

For example, a robotic device with plenty of AI onboard might be able to handle tasks such as suctioning blood. Machine Vision and Machine Learning could help that device determine where and how much suction needs to be applied. And, if you push this far enough, a surgeon might be able to initiate that process with a simple voice command like: “Suction.”

“How can we have task planners and motion planners through generative AI such that the surgeon would communicate with the robot with natural language – so they could ask the robot to complete a task and it would execute?” asks Sadra. “This would allow robots to become more friendly to the average individual who doesn’t have robotics knowledge.”

On the flip side of the coin, there’s also the potential for robotic devices to inform the surgeon of something that might require attention. In breast cancer surgery, for example, an AI-enhanced robot with realtime data from an imaging device might notice remaining tumour tissue and give the all-clear to close the incision only after all cancerous material has been excised.

In other words, some of the algorithms Sadra works on involve working on that human-robotic interface while leveraging powerful Large Language Model systems.

“Exactly. And we look at this process in three stages: We think about high-level reasoning and task planning, then mid-level motion planning, then lower-level motion control. This is not only for surgery; it’s a similar workflow for assistive robotics.”

The head of the lab, Professor & Senior University of Alberta Engineering
Research Chair in Healthcare Robotics Dr. Mahdi Tavakoli, describes AI in this field as “a game-changer,” enabling the next level of human-robotics interface.

“Our focus is clear: We’re building robots that collaborate with humans — robots that can understand our language, interpret context, and assist with the kinds of repetitive or physically demanding tasks that free people up to focus on what they do best: The creative, the social, the human. We see the future in ‘collaborative intelligence,’ where people stay in control and robots amplify human capabilities.”

Fun fact: The most powerful LLMs are known as Generative Pretrained Transformers – which is where ChatGPT gets its name.

 

WHAT’S NEXT?

 

We asked the researchers if the plan is to ultimately explore commercialisation. Apparently it’s a little more complex when it comes to surgery due to regulatory issues, but this is definitely on the roadmap. Sadra has been doing research through a program called Lab2Market and says there’s been very positive feedback from clinicians, physical and occupational therapists and manufacturers.

Program head Dr. Tavakoli says the lab is “thinking big” about how such innovations can help diversify the Canadian economy. In Alberta specifically, which has traditionally been a resource-dominated economy, he says robotics presents a huge opportunity for growth.

“That’s part of why we’ve launched Alberta Robotics: To build a regional ecosystem for robotics research, education, and innovation. So, the University of Alberta is open for business when it comes to robotics; people should be watching for what will come out of Alberta in robotics!”

Below: A promotional video for the da Vinci Surgical System. Will research at the U of A someday enable machines like this to take verbal commands from a surgeon?

INDRO’S TAKE

 

The research being carried out at the University of Alberta is both fascinating and carries with it huge potential in both the surgery and rehabilitation/assistive spheres. We’re pleased to know that three Ranger Mini platforms with InDro Commander are being put to work for this purpose – which is unlike any other use-case we’ve seen for our robots.

“I’m incredibly impressed with what they’re doing,” says InDro Founder and CEO Philip Reece. “It’s researchers like these, quietly carrying out advanced and focussed work, who make breakthroughs that ultimately become real-world devices and applications. We’re pleased to put a well-deserved spotlight on their work.”

You can check out a list of researchers and alumni – and see a photo of Sadra and Mahdi – right here.

Dual manipulator Rosie the robot used for Industry 4.0 research

Dual manipulator Rosie the robot used for Industry 4.0 research

By Scott Simmie

 

At least some of you will remember The Jetsons.

The television series, created by Hanna-Barbera Cartoons Inc., was a space-age version of The Flintstones (another Hanna-Barbera production). It originally aired in 1962-1963 with later episodes created in a reboot from 1985 to 1987.

But while Fred Flintstone drove a stone-age car (complete with stone wheels) that he powered by pushing his feet along the ground, George Jetson and his family lived in Orbit City, where Jetson commuted to his two-hour per week job via a flying car with a bubble top. And instead of having dinosaurs (including pterodactyls) help carry out tasks, The Jetsons live in a future where they’re surrounded by automated devices. You could think of their surroundings as the 1960s vision of the Smart Home.

And an integral part of that home? Well, that would be Rosey (later changed to ‘Rosie’) the robot.

Rosey was the family’s robotic maid. She carried out tasks that weren’t performed by the many other automatic conveniences that filled the Jetson’s home. She had two manipulator arms and an internally stored vacuum that be deployed on demand.

She was very useful around the house, carrying out tasks to save the family time.

And this story? Well, it’s about our own Rosie – which is also very space-age.

Below: A Rosie the robot publicity cel, signed by show creators William Hanna and Joseph Barbera. The cel was auctioned in 2018; image by Heritage Auctions

Rosie the Robot from The Jetsons Heritage Auctions image

THE ROSIE STORY

 

So. What is Rosie? We asked Head of R&D Sales Luke Corbeth for a snapshot.

“Rosie is a dual arm mobile manipulation robot designed for pick and place in an industry 4.0 setting,” he says. In other words, it has two arms and manoeuvres on a wheeled platform, and is capable of moving objects from one location to another or even manipulating a single object with both end effectors.

And Rosie has a few tricks up her sleeve. Or, more accurately, sleeves.

“The actual robot is very unique because it has six mounting points for the arms. So you can mount the arms on top, high on the side or low on the side to access shelving of different heights. In fact, you could actually mount one arm directly on the top right, for example, and then mount the second one on the bottom left. So you could grab something from the top of the shelf and from the floor at the same time, which is kind of cool, right?”

Yes, indeed.

Rosie’s home is not with the Jetsons (she has no vacuum cleaner) but in a new lab that hasn’t yet been officially launched at Polytechnique Montréal. It’s called the Intelligent-Cyber Physical System Lab, or I-CPS. So we contacted Lionel Birglen, a professor with the Department of Mechanical Engineering. We wanted to learn more about what the lab does, what he does – and what plans he has for Rosie (which InDro built and shipped in 2023).

Dr. Birglen is a PhD Mechanical Engineer, with a specialisation in robotics. He’s particularly interested in – and an expert on – manipulators and end effectors and has designed and built them. He’s written two books, holds three patents, and is the author or contributing author of at least 94 research papers. He’s also – get this – been listed among the top two per cent most-cited scientists in the world in his area of specialisation.

So it kinda goes without saying, but he’s a pretty big deal in this field.

Dr. Birglen has a deep interest in the role robotics will play in the future of industry. And, within that realm, he’s intensely interested in ensuring that robots, particularly those that will be sharing space with human beings on a factory or warehouse floor, will be safe.

And – he emphasises – he doesn’t trust simulations for important work like this.

“Because simulations lie. They lie all the time,” he says. “You have to understand that reality is infinitely more complex than anything you can have in simulation – so actual experiments are absolutely essential to me. They are essential to my work, to my understanding of what robotic manipulation is.”

“I believe in math, but I know that reality is different. It’s more complex, more complicated, and includes so many un-modelled phenomena.”

 

ROSIE’S JOURNEY

 

Dr. Birglen knew he wanted a new robot for use in the new lab (which we’ll get to shortly). And he knew he wanted a robot with two manipulator arms.

“Dual-arm robots are, in my opinion, the future for industry applications,” he says.

And while humanoid bipeds grab a lot of attention, they’re far more complex (and expensive) than wheeled robots. Plus, he says, most factory applications take place on a single level and don’t require climbing stairs.

“From a factory perspective, a wheeled platform makes a lot of sense because typically in factories you don’t have, say, five levels connected by stairs.”

So he knew he wanted an autonomous, wheeled, dual-arm robot. And he started, initially, to think of a company other than InDro for the build.

“I came across InDro almost by accident,” he explains. “Giovanni Beltrame told me about you because he has purchased many, many robots from you. He said: ‘Those guys can build and assemble the robot for you. They’re close and they do a great job.’ So that’s how I came in contact with you.” (We’ve written previously about the amazing work Dr. Beltrame is working on involving robots and space. You can find that here.)

And so, after a number of calls with Luke Corbeth and the engineering team to settle on design and performance parameters, work on Rosie began.

Below: Technologist Tirth Gajera (‘T’) puts the finishing touches on Rosie in 2023

Rosie and Tirth T

THE LAB

 

Polytechnique Montréal’s Intelligent-Cyber Physical System Lab (I-CPS) is set up as a highly connected Industry 4.0 factory. Faculty from four different departments – computer engineering, electrical engineering, industrial engineering and mechanical engineering (Dr. Birglen) – are involved with the lab. Interns and students, under supervision, also work in the facility.

“So we have four departments involved in this lab and the idea is to build a small scale factory of the future, meaning that everything is connected. We are building a mini-factory inside this lab,” he says.

So think of cameras that can track objects on shelves – and people and robots within the environment. Think of smart tools like a CNC machine, which will eventually be operated by Rosie. And, perhaps just as important as the connectivity within the lab, is connectivity to other research institutes in Quebec, including Université Laval, Université de Sherbrooke and École de Technologié Supérieure (ÉTS). All of those institutes are working with similar mini-factories, and they’re all connected. There’s even a relationship (and connectivity) with manipulator manufacturer Kinova. Funding came via a significant grant from the Canada Foundation for Innovation, or CFI.

“So think of our lab as like one node of this network of mini-factories around Quebec,” explains Dr. Birglen. That connectivity of all components is still a work-in-progress, but “ultimately the goal is that there is a cyber-connection between these different mini-factories, these different laboratories around Quebec, so that one part of one node can work in collaboration with another node in realtime.”

Plus, of course, a lot of learnings will take place within the individual labs themselves.

“We want to bring collaborative robots to work in tandem with humans,” he says. “We want our robots to safely move around people, we want robots to help people. And we also want robots to learn how to work from people.”

 

SAFETY, SAFETY, SAFETY

 

As mentioned earlier, there’s a huge emphasis on safety. And while there are international safety standards for collaborative robots, even a ‘safe’ cobot can pose a threat.

“All the collaborative robots that you have currently on the market more or less follow this technical standard and they are more or less safe, but they’re still dangerous,” explains Dr. Birglen. “And the classical example that we’ve all heard, and which is true, is that if a safe cobot has a knife in its hand and is moving around – it is very dangerous.”

So safety in the lab(s) is paramount – and that means safety at multiple levels. There must be safety:

  • At the task level; you must not have tasks that could endanger people
  • Safety at the control level
  • Safety in terms of collision detection, mitigation, obstacle avoidance
  • Safety at the data security level

Plus – and this really interests Dr. Birglen – you must ensure safety with any additional mechanical innovations that are introduced.

“What you develop, any mechanical system you develop, must be as much as possible intrinsically safe. And actually that’s one of the topics I’m currently working on is to develop end effectors and tooling that is intrinsically safe.”

Below: A LinkedIn post from Luke Corbeth shows Rosie, using both arms, inside the I-CPS lab

THE FUTURE

 

And why is research like this so important? What difference will it make to have robots and humans working safely together, with safe manipulators and end effectors that might even be able to, for example, lift an object in concert with a human being? And why the focus on interconnectedness between all of these facilities?

Well, there’s obviously the value of the research itself – which will lead to greater efficiencies, improved manipulators, gripping technologies, new algorithms and AI enhancements – as well as enhanced safety down the road. But there’s a much bigger picture, says Dr. Birglen, especially if you can get your head around thinking about the future from a global perspective.

China, he says, is no longer a developing nation. The days when the words “Made in China” meant poor quality are – with rare exceptions – gone. The country is, in fact, highly developed – and working at breakneck speed when it comes to innovation and adoption of robotics at scale. A revolution is underway that has massive implications for competitive advantage that simply cannot be ignored. So the research at  I-CPS is not merely important from an academic perspective, it’s strategic when viewed through a global economic lens.

“We as a country – meaning Canada – are in competition with other countries for manufacturing, for producing goods and services. China is a developed country and it is very, very, very good in robotics,” he states. “You know how in the past we saw China as producing low quality goods, low quality robots? That’s over, man. That’s finished.”

And?

“If they are investing in robotics like mad and we are not, we’re going to be a leftover – Canada is going to sink as a rich country. If you want to produce wealth in the 21st Century, you need robots, you need automation, you need integration. In short, you need to be the leader of the pack or you’re going to be eaten.”

It’s a stark warning – and it’s true.

I step outside as author and state this having lived in China back when it was still a developing country in the late 1980s – and having returned several times since then. The transformation has been nothing short of astonishing. How, you might ask, did it achieve all this?

The answer has its genesis with former Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping. who led the country from 1978 to 1989. He didn’t merely open the door to reform; he created policies that began sending waves of students from what had been a xenophobic country abroad to study. There was an emphasis on careers that could help modernise the nation, including all aspects of engineering, aerospace, construction, transportation, architecture, etc. That’s where all this began.

Thankfully (and with credit to federal funding agencies like CFI), there are projects like I-CPS underway – and academics like Dr. Lionel Birglen with the vision to push the needle safely forward.

Below: “Baxter” – the original dual-arm robot. Baxter is still at Polytechnique Montréal, but Rosie is the mobile future. Photo by Luke Corbeth

Baxter
Rosie

INDRO’S TAKE

 

We’re obviously pleased Polytechnique Montréal selected InDro to build Rosie. And we’re particularly pleased to see that she’s being deployed at I-CPS, as part of an integrated and networked research project that has such potentially profound implications for the future.

“I believe Dr. Birglen is correct in his assessment of the importance of robotics and automation in the future,” says InDro Robotics Founder and CEO Philip Reece. “And when you throw innovations with drones and even autonomous Uncrewed Aerial Vehicles capable of carrying large cargo loads and passengers into the mix, we are actually heading into a Jetsons-like future,” he adds.

“I think there’s a growing understanding of the implications of this kind of future from not only the private sector, but also federal regulators and funding agencies. At InDro our mission will always focus on continued innovation. Sometimes those innovations are our own inventions, but a key piece of the puzzle is R&D work carried out by academics like Lionel Birglen. We’re confident that Rosie’s arms are in the right hands.”

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